New MD-UV380 or RT3S

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VK3KYY » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:10 pm

If the CPU chip has no markings, the firmware will not work, because the chip is not a real STM32F405

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VE2NCK » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:22 pm

one thing that bug me about all this is that i can load openrtx on it , and it will run it.. what is the missing part of code to have it supported by opengd77?
thx to everyone who is contributing to this endeavor

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VK3KYY » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:30 pm

VE2NCK wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:22 pm
one thing that bug me about all this is that i can load openrtx on it , and it will run it.. what is the missing part of code to have it supported by opengd77?
thx to everyone who is contributing to this endeavor
OpenRTX do not use the official STM hardware code libraries (HAL) or FreeRTOS etc

The code appears to be crashing somewhere inside either a HAL library or FreeRTOS

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VK3KYY » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:58 pm

I checked and STM32F405VTG CPUs are still available in China e.g.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004137675365.html

So this is just a cost saving exercise by TYT.

Perhaps someone needs to tell them, that the reason they are selling a lot of UV380 / RT3S is that people want to run OpenGD77 on these radios, and they should return to using the official STM32 CPU and not try to make more money by using an unmarked clone

FYI.

Retevis just rebrand the MD-UV380 and load their own, slighly modified firmware. But the hardware is made by TYT

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VE2NCK » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:13 pm

VK3KYY wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:30 pm
VE2NCK wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:22 pm
one thing that bug me about all this is that i can load openrtx on it , and it will run it.. what is the missing part of code to have it supported by opengd77?
thx to everyone who is contributing to this endeavor
OpenRTX do not use the official STM hardware code libraries (HAL) or FreeRTOS etc

The code appears to be crashing somewhere inside either a HAL library or FreeRTOS
i see thx for the information

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Re: Possibly not compatible with new Non-GPS MD-UV380 or RT3S

Post by SA0BUX » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:03 pm

SA0BUX wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:40 pm
SA0BUX wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:33 pm
I have a non GPS rt3s arriving shortly, dunno the serial yet but I will notify here.
Will be interesting to see what MCU this one has, just arrived from Amazon in Germany.
It's a non GPS unit.
But I have some German beer first (Weiherer Landbier)


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This serial number 2208R03S1100979 worked fine with OpenGD77 so I guess I was lucky, I had that feeling as it was s/n 2208R03 with a 2022 8 seal.

I wonder if the ones with a serial which seems earlier than the month on the seal was reworked or not completed at factory until later ? , maybe they had problems getting some components like the MCU.

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by SA0BUX » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:06 pm

VK3KYY wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:58 pm
I checked and STM32F405VTG CPUs are still available in China e.g.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004137675365.html

So this is just a cost saving exercise by TYT.

Perhaps someone needs to tell them, that the reason they are selling a lot of UV380 / RT3S is that people want to run OpenGD77 on these radios, and they should return to using the official STM32 CPU and not try to make more money by using an unmarked clone

FYI.

Retevis just rebrand the MD-UV380 and load their own, slighly modified firmware. But the hardware is made by TYT
Or maybe they try to stop us using a non official firmware by installing a MCU that isn't standard ?

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VE2NCK » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:39 pm

SA0BUX wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:06 pm
VK3KYY wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:58 pm
I checked and STM32F405VTG CPUs are still available in China e.g.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004137675365.html

So this is just a cost saving exercise by TYT.

Perhaps someone needs to tell them, that the reason they are selling a lot of UV380 / RT3S is that people want to run OpenGD77 on these radios, and they should return to using the official STM32 CPU and not try to make more money by using an unmarked clone

FYI.

Retevis just rebrand the MD-UV380 and load their own, slighly modified firmware. But the hardware is made by TYT
Or maybe they try to stop us using a non official firmware by installing a MCU that isn't standard ?
tyt and boafeng got warn of heavy fines for selling unregulated radios, boafeng started implementing locks in there radio last fall
i.e.: amateur radio are restricted for tx only in the allowed freq. on 2m and 70cm, you can program "out-of-band" freq. but the radio won't transmit elsewhere same for the gmrs. i suppose tyt are doing something in that direction too, but this seem to be another issue as the radio still can be prog. and transmit out of the amateur bands. cost reduction seem to be the more realistic choice

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VK3KYY » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:58 pm

I don't think this has anything to do with prevening people using the radio on unregulated frequencies

You can still install OpenRTX and transmit wherever you like.

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Re: IMPORTANT. New MD-UV380 or RT3S are not compatible

Post by VK3KYY » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:14 am

I checked the availablilty of the CPU, and it looks like there is a global shortage of the genuine CPU

e.g. see

https://au.mouser.com/c/?q=stm32f405VGT

Which don't seem to be forecast to be resolved until the end of the year

So I think this will be the end of the firmware being compatible with any radios which are currently in production

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