[Resolved incorrect DMR EmbeddedLCOnly PiStar setting] Callsings not displayed

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[Resolved incorrect DMR EmbeddedLCOnly PiStar setting] Callsings not displayed

Post by K9JPT » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:36 pm

Happy field day!

Today, I uploaded the latest firmware release and was wondering why I cannot see the callsigns of other amateur radio operators. It was my understanding that the OpenGD firmware supports 'Talker Alias' removing the need to store a database of callsigns on the HT.

I set 'Talker Alias' to 'on' in my GD77 but I don't see callsigns. I'm not using a repeater. I use my hotspot with pi-star.

Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.

K9JPT

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by F1RMB » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:15 pm

Hi,
K9JPT wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:36 pm
Happy field day!

Today, I uploaded the latest firmware release and was wondering why I cannot see the callsigns of other amateur radio operators. It was my understanding that the OpenGD firmware supports 'Talker Alias' removing the need to store a database of callsigns on the HT.

I set 'Talker Alias' to 'on' in my GD77 but I don't see callsigns. I'm not using a repeater. I use my hotspot with pi-star.

Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.

K9JPT
Talker alias is only available on brandmeister network.
You can also load a bunch of dmrids in your GD, using the extra menu in the CPS.

Cheers.
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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by VK3KYY » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:08 pm

K9JPT wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:36 pm
Happy field day!

Today, I uploaded the latest firmware release and was wondering why I cannot see the callsigns of other amateur radio operators. It was my understanding that the OpenGD firmware supports 'Talker Alias' removing the need to store a database of callsigns on the HT.

I set 'Talker Alias' to 'on' in my GD77 but I don't see callsigns. I'm not using a repeater. I use my hotspot with pi-star.

Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.

K9JPT
TA Rx is always enabled.

The option you enabled is to transmit Talker Alias,

I recommend you turn that off again, because most networks don’t handle TA data from end users. E.g. DMR MARC networks freak out if you enable it, and Brandmeister seems to ignore part of the TA data, so there is no point sending it.

TA Tx is mainly used for simplex operation.

Please see the User Guide

https://github.com/rogerclarkmelbourne/ ... e.md#ta-tx

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by K9JPT » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm

Thank you for the replies and added detail!

However, the issue I have still remains. I cannot see callsigns on my OpenGD77 handheld when I get into QSO's or simply just listen.

I listen to 3100, 31656, 31363, 91 and see no callsigns.

What am I doing wrong?

Question: In CPS under 'About' the CPS version is not released. Where would I find it?

Thanks,

K9JPT

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by N1KY » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:22 pm

K9JPT wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm
Question: In CPS under 'About' the CPS version is not released. Where would I find it?
Look for the build date in the CPS title bar. Example: OpenGD77 CPS (Build date 20200627)

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by VK3KYY » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:15 am

K9JPT wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm
Thank you for the replies and added detail!

However, the issue I have still remains. I cannot see callsigns on my OpenGD77 handheld when I get into QSO's or simply just listen.

I listen to 3100, 31656, 31363, 91 and see no callsigns.

What am I doing wrong?

Question: In CPS under 'About' the CPS version is not released. Where would I find it?

Thanks,

K9JPT
Some repeaters don't pass TA data, because old Motorola radios don't support it. Try a different repeater, or use a hotspot or contact the repeater administrator (but I doubt a repeater admin would enable TA if its not currently enabled)

If you are using a hotspot and don't see any TA data, then its probably not configured correctly

You can download some of the DMR ID database into the radio, but the memory is limited to around 15,000 callsigns, and there are at least 50,000 registered Hams on DMR just in the USA alone.

So you won't be able to store all the callsigns.

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by K9JPT » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:32 pm

I have been trying for a couple months now to get TA working on my Open GD-77 to no avail. MY settings in pi-star appear to be correct but would welcome any further suggestions so I can finally start to see call signs.

Thank you!

K9JPT

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by F1RMB » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:56 pm

Hi,

K9JPT wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:32 pm
I have been trying for a couple months now to get TA working on my Open GD-77 to no avail. MY settings in pi-star appear to be correct but would welcome any further suggestions so I can finally start to see call signs.

Thank you!

K9JPT
Which network are you using (Brandmeister, DMR-MARC, IPSC2....) ?


Cheers.
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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by K9JPT » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:40 pm

Well Pi-Star is set to use the BM server.

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Re: Callsings not displayed

Post by F1RMB » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:50 pm

In your Pi-Star configuration page, "DMR Configuration" section, does the toggle "DMR EmbeddedLCOnly:" is OFF ?

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