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Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:47 am
by VK3KYY
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
Hello, I am unable to download the latest CPS for Open GD. It tries but I get this:
Installer.jpg
This is a known problem, and has been thoroughly discussed many times before.

The message is just saying that the installer is not signed by Microsoft or a Microsoft authorised security certificate.

There is nothing we can do about this, because a security certificate costs around $750 per year

And No. The project does not qualify for a free "Open Source" security certificate, because we have a non-commercial usage limitation on the firmware and CPS, and this invalidates the project from using any free "Open Source" security certificates.

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:29 pm
by wa4rvo
with .exe files, most systems will not allow download. If it is possible for the developer to tie it up in .zip file?

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:34 pm
by wa4rvo
Addition: I had a similar problem with a Chinese product that was an .exe file. They had to .zip it in order to download, additionally some files can have the suffix changed to .txt and then re-set to .exe and will work.

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:55 pm
by SA0BUX
It's a bit strange I have downloaded and installed other unsigned software without any blocking.
But I have seen that zip files was classified as unsafe and I had to approve the download.
That with chrome and windows.

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:12 pm
by VK3KYY
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:34 pm
Addition: I had a similar problem with a Chinese product that was an .exe file. They had to .zip it in order to download, additionally some files can have the suffix changed to .txt and then re-set to .exe and will work.
This is something your PC is doing.

Perhaps your antivirus or an update from Microsoft

It's outside of our control.

Thousands of other people have successfully installed the CPS.

Tricks like zipping do not work for long, or not at all.

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:37 pm
by wa4rvo
Ok, Tks, I'll keep trying tricks to get it loaded. I turn the anti-virus off and come up with the same thing on Win 11-10. I have similar problems with a lot of Chinese software. I am a network engineer, and I get garbled up with software! I have been dealing with lots of different radios out of China and have run into many problems. Maybe someone reading this will tell me how they got it on their Win 11 system. Probably something I'm overlooking I will eventually figure it out or just keyboard install parameters. Tks -73-

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:58 pm
by SA0BUX
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:37 pm
Ok, Tks, I'll keep trying tricks to get it loaded. I turn the anti-virus off and come up with the same thing on Win 11-10. I have similar problems with a lot of Chinese software. I am a network engineer, and I get garbled up with software! I have been dealing with lots of different radios out of China and have run into many problems. Maybe someone reading this will tell me how they got it on their Win 11 system. Probably something I'm overlooking I will eventually figure it out or just keyboard install parameters. Tks -73-
If it's totally impossible and you doesn't have a Linux computer or similar available you can try the wget cli utility that is available for windows via a command or powershell windows you can feed wget with the url to the cps file.

https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm

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wget https://www.opengd77.com/downloads/PC_CPS/Latest/OpenGD77CPSInstaller_R2024.01.22.01.exe

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:23 pm
by VK3KYY
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
Hello, I am unable to download the latest CPS for Open GD. It tries but I get this:
Installer.jpg
The Windows is not telling you that it can't download the file, its telling you its on your disk but that it thinks its a virus

You have to make a folder e.g. called quarantine, and set this folder as being not-scanned by your antivirus, and download the file into that folder.

If you can't do this yourself, ask someone at work to do it for you, since you work in computing, there will be someone in your organisation who has this basic knowledge

Edit

I just googled this for you. See

https://superuser.com/questions/25538/h ... et-or-curl

Windows Power Shell can download files

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$client = new-object System.Net.WebClient
$client.DownloadFile("https://www.opengd77.com/downloads/PC_CPS/Latest/OpenGD77CPSInstaller_R2024.01.22.01.exe",".\OpenGD77CPSInstaller_R2024.01.22.01.exe");

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:29 pm
by SA0BUX
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
Hello, I am unable to download the latest CPS for Open GD. It tries but I get this:
Installer.jpg
What info did you have under "Show More"?

Maybe you could allow the download there or something?

Re: New CSP 2024 01 22

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:16 pm
by VK3KYY
SA0BUX wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:29 pm
wa4rvo wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:02 am
Hello, I am unable to download the latest CPS for Open GD. It tries but I get this:
Installer.jpg
What info did you have under "Show More"?

Maybe you could allow the download there or something?
I think this is an antivirus message.

The Show More usually just tells you what the virus is. But perhaps there is the option to move to a quarantine folder.

For a while, my own PC would delete the CPS exe as soon as the compiler created it ;-)

But it stopped doing that about a year ago.

I do not use the Microsoft always online scanning crap

This change by MS to constantly alert that a exe is not signed, is only security theatre, and probably designed so that the masses only buy apps from the MS store where MS can make more money.


For independant / not for profit development, the security certificate method is impossible.
Not only is it very expensive, but requires almost clean-room PC configuation, dedicated to signing the exe

And then if the exe did have a virus, the developer becomes personally resonsible and probably blacklisted by many companies

This is not a risk or expense that is every practical

People must take their own personal responsibility for free things.